Wednesday, November 28, 2007

Can't sleep so I thought I'd post...

I'm supposed to be taking a nap - but of course the Amp energy drink finally kicked in and I cannot fall asleep. So I'd thought I'd share some stuff...

First, I don't recall if I blogged about this, but in August I believe, Lyndon Lamborn was ex-communicated from the LDS church - his ex-communication letter announced that this would then be announced in EIGHT wards on Sunday. Yes - that is rare for the LDS church. I assume recently, Mr. Lamborn agreed to do a Q&A and share his "testimony" of sorts with a local Christian church. It's very interesting. Videos are below (end of blog.)

Second, on the CC board, a poster named Jeremiah likes to post the latest and greatest advice from Gramps - an elderly LDS writer who gives advice to people via internet or podcast. Most of them are for sure bigoted, but the most recent one tickles me pink - being a vile, sinful, hell bound apostate and all. ;-)

How can I help my friend who is falling away from the Mormon Church without hurting his feelings?

Dear Gramps,

I have a friend who I am afraid is falling away from the Mormon Church. I have heard him bear his testimony many times, but when I talk to him in a small group setting he isn’t the same. I recently heard him say he doesn’t really have a reason to come to church anymore, and I think he is attending in order to impress his parents. How can I help him without hurting his feeling and pushing him over the edge’ so to speak?

Concerned, from Canada

Dear Concerned,

If your friend is falling away from the church, he no longer has the companionship of the Holy Spirit. If he no longer has the companionship of the Holy Spirit, he has committed some sinful act from which he has not repented. Without the companionship of the Holy Spirit, he cannot know that the church is true. Paul tells us—But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit; for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, except he has the Spirit of God (JST 1 Cor 2:9-11).So, about the only thing that you could do would be to remain as his friend and pray for him. If you try to convince him of the truthfulness of the gospel, it will fall on deaf ears until he qualifies himself to receive the witness of the Holy Spirit.

Gramps


Why do I ever wonder why my former LDS friends think I'm engaged in some sleezy sin? Gee.. I wonder.... :-P

Since we know that this reply is based on teachings about apostacy from the "one true church", then we of course know that the LDS church is not judgmental about those who leave at all. Bad ex-Mormons - you sinners you! :P But in all honesty, it just reminds me that the LDS church isn't really about Jesus after all the bells and whistles and horn blowing - it's about, the LDS church.













1 comment:

Belen said...

Sorry, haven't had time for the videos yet, so just responding to your text.

My husband and I were talking about this last night. He keeps expecting people to be phoning us and knocking on our door anytime now. I said I think it's more likely that as word gets around, people are going to add their own spin -we've been offended, or we're sinning- and just avoid us, because they don't know what to say. And I get that, because to them, the LDS church is God's church, and it's completely impossible for God to tell someone to leave His church! Until I actually went through it, I could not have believed it either. If someone thought that God told them to leave, they must have a serious problem, and couldn't really have the Holy Ghost anymore. Sometimes that makes me doubt my own decision, but then I once again experience the Holy Spirit more powerfully than I ever did outside of a handful of times before I left. So, the only answer must be that I'm completely delusional, and probably should be hospitalized. :-)

R.